[00:00:00] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:00:00] Speaker B: Are you ready?
[00:00:01] Speaker A: I think I'm ready. I'm as ready as I'm going to be.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:00:06] Speaker A: Welcome to Shit My Soul Says, a podcast about all things Woo. I'm Jillian.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: And I'm Rosalie. And we are obsessed with anything having to do with alternative spirituality.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: And we want to share our obsession with you because woo is fun, but it's more fun with friends. I'm a reincarnation coach and energy worker.
[00:00:27] Speaker B: And I'm a practicing witch. So we've been around the woo block a time or two.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: Mm. Each episode we will be digging into a different topic, from tarot to third eyes to energy healing.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: We'll share our personal experiences and offer you practical advice for your own practice.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: So whether you're new to all of this or Queen of the pagans, that's me.
Everybody is welcome.
[00:00:52] Speaker B: No witch card needed. This is inclusive. Woo. We just wanna laugh with you, learn.
[00:00:57] Speaker A: With you, and talk about some Woo shit with you. So let's do that. Let's talk. My Soul says hi.
Here we are again.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: And I should say we haven't actually been able to nail down a schedule for this show.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: There's been things happening in life. Yes, there have been things happening in life.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: A lot of things.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: Sicknesses, holidays.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: More sicknesses.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: More sicknesses. It's mostly me and it's mostly sickness and other distractions.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah. But mostly sickness.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So we're back to it.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: Yes, I'm mostly better.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: We're mostly better.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: So we're gonna post this when we post it, and someday we hope to have a schedule. And when we do.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: And we just are very appreciative that you're here with us. Yes. That's all we had to say about that.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Yes. And on that note, I just do want to put this up front. If you're watching on YouTube, please like and subscribe. It makes a huge, huge difference. And if you're listening, please follow us on your favorite. Podcatcher is what they're called these days.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: Oh, look at that. Another podcatcher.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: And rate us 5 stars. And if you don't want to rate us 5 stars, don't bother rating us, please.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Okay, well, that was clear. Yeah, I'm just giv. We've given you some guidance.
[00:02:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you gotta ask for what you want.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: This is true.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: If you're going to get it, you got to ask for it.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: That's right. Just remind people. Yeah. Come play with us.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: Okay, so I think it might be time for the weekly Woo.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: Rosalie, why don't you tell us what the weekly woo is.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Oh, Jillian, I'm so glad you asked.
The weekly woo is the time in our episode when we talk about something woo that has happened to us that's exciting or cool or maybe a little sad.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: I mean, I don't have anything sad, but we've had stuff. We've had woos that were a little bit sad in the past.
Something woo.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: Something woo.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: What was your weekly woo?
[00:02:59] Speaker A: My weekly woo was full woo.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: Oh, fantastic.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: It's full woo. So, you know, I can sense my energy body. Right. And I often will tune into my first chakra because I, like, tend to tense up there quite a bit.
And I will find that I have this, like, knot, this little energetic knot that I'll, like, poke at energetically and try to, like, unravel. And so sometimes I do, and sometimes I'm like, okay, but it can take some time. It's been a journey to learn how to kind of work with this energy knot.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: The best way I can describe it as is a knot. Last week, I. I was working on it, and I managed to, like, un knot it. Oh, yes. And it opened up, and then the most fascinating thing happened.
[00:03:47] Speaker B: I want to know.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: All of a sudden, all of this heat started coming up in my body.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. That's amazing.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: And then I could feel it release, and it would hit, like, every chakra going up. And then it, like, opened up and expanded. And I'm like, why am I. I was like, am I having a hot flash?
Is that what happened? Because I stopped having hot flashes. But then I was like, well, maybe they're back.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's so interesting.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: Yes. So I did a little bit of research because I'm like, it's kind of like. Because I thought kundalini, but like, a kundalini release is like bam. And I didn't feel like bam. It didn't feel like I cracked open.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: So instead of, like, the kundalini snake, it was like a worm.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: Yeah, like a little Kundalini worm.
Yes. Got a little worm out.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: Like a garter snake.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: A little garter snake. A little serpent. A little mini. A little baby serpent. I don't know. Or like something unblocked. Yes. And I released it. But, you know, so I did my little research. ChatGPT. Of course. I went to chat GPT. ChatGPT is like, yeah, sounds like maybe it was like a little bit of Kundalini. You know, Chatgpt is just always supportive and encouraging me.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: She.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: She's like, whatever you want, Jillian. I'm going to tell you. Yeah, you're good. So I don't know what it was, but the one thing it said is that there would. You would know it'd be Kundalini because there would be other, like, awakening sorts of things. And I will tell you, my life has really shifted since that. Like, I just feel a lot more open. I feel higher vibration. I feel more connected to the divine. I feel like more in sync with things. I love this and the things that would cause me, like, a lot of anger. It's still, you know, I still have some reactions, but it doesn't. It's not so negative as it was. So. I know.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: And for those of you who don't know, the first chakra is all about security and safety and it's where you ground through.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: Yeah. It's about the physical body too.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So that was my weekly woo. That's it. It was full woo. You're talking Kundalini time. Let's go all in. Woo. Woo tastic.
[00:06:01] Speaker B: I mean, okay. I've had so many woo things happen since our last episode, so I've really been trying to figure out, like, how do I decide what my weekly woo is? So actually I've got multiple weekly woos, but they're going to come in throughout the episode because they're related to the episode and what we're going to be talking about. But my unrelated weekly woo is. I'm really excited because you might have heard that I like crystals.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Just a little bit.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: You might have heard. Just a little bit. And I've been. I've spent too much money on crystals. Too much. But it's for a reason. Because I intend to start an online store to be my witchy storefront. Because I don't have a witchy storefront right now. Physical. And that's what I really, really, really, really want.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: So feel that for you.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: I mean, my best friend since I was six years old has been telling me, like, you need to own a witchy shop. And I was like, I don't want to do that. And then I worked at a witchy shop and was like, this is where my life is.
[00:07:05] Speaker A: Because it felt like home there.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it's like, okay, I can help people and I can, like, be surrounded by these beautiful witchy things and I can. I can do tarot readings and spiritual journey facilitation sessions and. And all of that as well. So anyway, I don't have the upfront money to start a storefront, but I am going to be doing a. An Online.
[00:07:27] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Witchy supply store. And there's going to be a lot of crystals. So please come to my store. It's going to
[email protected] and listeners or watchers of Ship My Soul says can get a discount, which I haven't decided yet how much the discount is.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: So it's a little surprise.
[00:07:46] Speaker B: A little surprise. But you will get a discount with code.
So we will include that. Yes, yes. We will include that in the show notes and that will be for anything that's not already on sale.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: So, yeah, I'm excited for the new leg of Rosalie's journey. Thank you. Good.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: I'm excited, too. It feels really good. And then last night I started to get that, like, oh, my God, what am I doing? This feels so scary. And then I was like, wait. Excitement and fear travel along the same pathways. And so it was like, okay, the fear.
Good sign.
[00:08:24] Speaker A: Yeah. That's what I always would tell people when I would do my life coaching, that if you're feeling fear and I'm going to talk, there's a difference to tune in. If you're feeling that there's a fear happening, that's often a sign that there's some. Something good for you to be found there. Right. That there's some gold or something. There's difference between dread. Right. If it's dread or if it's just dead, deadening feeling, that's something to avoid. But if it's like, I don't know if I can do this, that's powerful. It means there's also spiritual growth for you in that. Because if you pass through, if you face your fear and you go through it, it like, it's like that knot. It's like the knot, it opens up.
[00:09:03] Speaker B: Kundalini Twins.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: Kundalini twins.
Okay. All right, let's get to the episode. I'm so excited.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: We got an email from one of our loyal listeners who has or watchers. I don't know what she's doing these.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Days, but she audience members.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: She's been with us since the beginning. She's one of my two extra moms.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: An extra mom?
[00:09:29] Speaker B: Yeah, she wrote asking about spirit guides.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Which is like my favorite topic.
And we did do a spirit guide episode in the podcast back in season one.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: We did.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: So we'll link to that in the show notes too, if you want to watch that or listen to that. You can't watch it. You could listen to it.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: You can listen to it.
[00:09:46] Speaker A: But it's actually one of our more popular episodes. And it's good to bring in some more information and new information. Absolutely. That maybe we didn't cover well.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: And I'm in a new place with my spirit guides.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: Yes. And we both channeled some information, which we didn't do that last time.
[00:10:04] Speaker B: Well, I sort of channeled. You channeled information.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah. You did too. You did a little. You did a little channel.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Did I?
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Yes.
It's in there. And I remember being like, damn. I mean, it's shorter than mine. Because my spirit guides, like me, are very talkative. But yours was. It was. I remember reading. I'm like, this doesn't sound like Rosalie at all. I was like, this is so clearly coming from your guides.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: I'm glad that you have it, because I'm like, I don't even remember doing this, which is, for me, something that happens a lot when I do spiritual work. And so that's why writing stuff down for my spirit guides is really helpful for me. It just comes into my brain and it filters through my body and goes away from my conscious mind. So if I do a tarot reading for you at any point or any sort of spiritual work with you, there's a 75% chance I will not remember any of that until you remind me.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Absolutely. That's the same with me. When I do energy healings and I get intuitive information, like, you can come back to me the next time and be like, oh, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I kind of vaguely remember that.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: But I mean, a channel for you, it's. It's a channel situation. It's not.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So it doesn't stay. It does. That goes through different pathways in our brains or something.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: So should we read the email?
[00:11:16] Speaker A: I'm gonna get out my glasses.
We're gonna get official.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: And now we're in Jillian's library corner.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: My library. We're gonna read from the laptop, so you're gonna see the laptop.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Jillian is our sexy librarian today.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: That's it. I'm all about the sexy book time. This is the question we received from our audience member. Hi, Rosalie and Jillian. I'm enjoying the new season so much. Thank you for doing this. Thank you, thank you. I love the video format and enjoy seeing your beautiful faces and expressions.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: Oh, so now we know. She watches it.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: She watches it. Okay, good. We read this before, so we don't remember even the things we don't channel. I have a question that maybe you could do a show about, and maybe you already have, and I need to go back and listen to your podcasts. Yes, indeed. I wish I had A more active connection to my spirit guides. How do I meet them and find out about them? I have one distinct guy that I've had experiences with, Black Jaguar. Whenever I do shamanic journey type meditation, she's always there. She's very elusive, though. Certainly not a being that I casually chat with throughout my day.
Right. Because that's what I often talk about is like just take a chit chat and we'll get to that. When we talk about guides, how do I meet the others? And how do I know the difference between a spirit guide, God or goddess and other entities? I want to be respectful. They're not pets who exist to amuse me. I'm looking for a connection that can help me on my journey of becoming who I truly am. Not opposed to some amusement, though. Thank you.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: I have to give that listener reader watcher what a heart.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: Yes. Heart time.
Okay, we did that.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: What a great question, though.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: It is a great question and I think it's really great because for a few reasons. One, this is stuff that we didn't cover in the episode. Right. There's some stuff we talk about spirit guides, but we don't talk about what's the difference between gods and goddesses and spirit guides and entities.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: Yeah, right.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: All of that sort of thing. And. And this idea about wanting to be respectful of them and not treat them like pets.
All good stuff. Yeah.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: And I think especially when you have a non human guide, that that inclination to treat them like a pet is probably more prevalent. You know, Black Jaguar, not really a pet.
[00:13:32] Speaker A: No.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: But somebody might have a house cat as a guide.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: True.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Or dog.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll get into that. So I'm going to go back to. Because I'm going to. Do you want me to read what you said? You want to read it?
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Well, I want to read what I said.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: You should read what I said.
[00:13:49] Speaker B: I don't remember what I said. Yeah.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: You're going to read it. I'm going to read it. Okay. So the question that Rosalie posed is what are spirit guides?
[00:14:01] Speaker B: Okay. So this was a question that I posed to my guides and I did like I asked them. And I had my computer and I just sort of started typing and this is what I got. We have always been here. From your point of view, it may seem like ages, but from ours it has been a brief instant. We have been with you always from your first life, many lifetimes ago, through today. Your soul has been through much. And we hold all of your wisdom and experiences within our memories so that you may always access them. Even when your body cannot. We are many and we are one. We are all and we are none. We belong to you alone and to the universe. And every soul that is now has ever been and will ever be.
[00:14:50] Speaker A: Beautiful. What do you think of that? You don't remember that at all? I thought it was really beautiful.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: I do remember that. I just didn't remember that. I put it in the notes.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Well, you did.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: I was like, oh, did I choose to share that? Like very deep.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: I chose to share that. Yes. Fantastic. Yes. Come back to that. More to come on the laptop. What are spirit guides?
[00:15:10] Speaker B: What are spirit guides? They're all and they are none.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: They're all and they are none Answered. Question answered. Okay.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: And let's go on.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: And now we're done with the episode. So what are spirit guides in your view? I have, you know, I have a lot to say about it. Yeah.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: To me a spirit guide is a benevolent entity of some sort.
Could be an ancestor, could be an animal guide, could be a human, fairy, mythical creature, something that I can't even think of, clouds or wind, you know, elements that wants to help you on your journey in this life, who wants to provide assistance for you, but who is not probably going to do a whole lot for you unless you ask.
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Okay, so that is your definition.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:15:54] Speaker A: So as we often talk about, Rosalie and I have aligned but also unique spiritual perspectives. Perspectives.
So in all of my research and learning about spirit guides, how it works from my perspective is that you have one or many guides assigned to you for this lifetime. So before you come into form, you have a guide who's working with you, who maybe has been through the same challenges or maybe you have been with in other lives that then helps you plan out your life and then helps you kind of like, well, a guide is in the name but like helps to make sure that you execute on that life plan. Again, I know we have different perspectives on life plans but that they're there to help you and they can help you whether you ask for it or not. So they can be like, oh, you're going off track, I'm going to send you some messages or some signals. Yes, right. But in general they do tend to be non interfering because they're respected you and they're saying, hey, you're doing your thing, let me know if you need any help. And I am here to help you. But otherwise I'm like, you got this. I will also say you can have a lot of guides. I think what you're also talking about you can have a lot of guides. So you'll have the one that's kind of the one that's with you for your life. And then you might also have a higher level guide who's kind of like an overseer guide who's a more advanced soul that you might not work with as closely, but they have higher levels of knowledge. And then you might have guides that come in for just particular tasks. Like, I now I've. Because I connect with my guides. I chat with them all the time and I do meditations. And there's somebody working with me right now on my, like, business side of things. And so my regular guy that I work with is kind of like off because they have other people they work with too. You're not the only one. And so maybe he's off working with somebody else while this other guy is a little bit more hands on working on my business stuff.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: It's interesting just to. To hear the different perspectives, right?
[00:17:53] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: Because ultimately your spirit guide is your spirit guide. Your experience with spirit guides is spirit with your spirit guide.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: Absolutely. And I think the commonality that we both have, regardless of your lens or your viewpoint or your description, is that they're there to help you.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: Right. I don't think that you could call an entity a spirit guide if it's trying to harm you in any way.
[00:18:15] Speaker A: And which kind of jumps ahead a little bit to how do you know the difference between the different types? So for me, because I thought about this, right. Because I don't usually. Well, that's not true. I do have a. There is a God story, which I'll get to in a second. But God, goddesses, entities, I don't really deal with entities. Even in the show notes or not the show notes. Even in the Our planning notes. I was like, I'm gonna hand that entities went over to Rosalie. This is the entity expert. But I was thinking about as well, how do I know the difference about even like if it's a ghost. Right. Or somebody that I know that's passed over versus the guide. And I realized for me, it's a feeling.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: It's like, right. It's all vibration. So for me it's a feeling. And for me it's like, I know it's a guide because there's a more of a. The energy is one of more of help and guidance versus, like a ghost that's just trying to communicate something to me. Sure. Or somebody else's guide that I'll tune into. Right. That has a very different energy. To me. It Feels more like I'm a pass through if I'm connecting to somebody else's guide to like get that information to give it to somebody else. Very different than talking to my own guides.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: That's really interesting. What about gods and goddesses? Deities? Like what's your thought on, on that?
[00:19:31] Speaker A: So I don't have a solid perspective on gods and goddesses. This is, this is my conjecture.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: So I'm not willing to say this is a belief, but this is a conjecture that there are. Sometimes it's like we've poured energy into this sort of, like this sort of being and kind of created it into a God. Or it could also be that there are different types of beings that have been broken off from God that are very high level. I think that there are some that are very much associated with the earth. I don't really know, but I do know this. So I had a meditation where I was connected to my guides and I had a blue multi armed guide that came in and I was like, that's an Indian God.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: Yeah, like that's a Hindu, that's a Hindu God.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: And I'm very much like I am. If I was gonna join a religion, an organized religion, it would be Hinduism. But it's two different culturally for me. But if I was going to say this is the one that's the closest to my belief system, it's Hinduism. So I feel an alignment with Hinduism but I don't feel in alignment with all the gods. Yeah, like that's just not my thing. So I was like, okay, well this is interesting that this is guy is coming up and it's Vishnu. So then I had to do a whole bunch of research. Vishnu, who's like. And I read all about him, like well this makes sense that he's. And he even came to me in a dream. There's a whole amazing dream which is going to take an hour to describe, so I won't. But it was one of those really powerful, very clear kind of dreams and he was in it and he apparently is like I'm. It's more, it's less that he's a guide and more like I'm one of his soldiers.
[00:21:07] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:21:08] Speaker A: That's what it feels like that I'm doing his work.
Right. Because I'm all about reincarnation and my work and helping people. It's when you learn. I can't even articulate. But he's all about like maintaining the order of the universe and helping, helping, sorry, Vishnu. I feel you.
But yeah, so it's not that he's so much a guide, but that he's working with me.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's. I like that. That description because when I have worked with deities, I have worked very closely with the particular deity. Nowadays I call her the cosmic mother, but for a long time, it's just like my goddess. Right. With mother vibes. But it was definitely like. It was less her being like, let's work together, and more of her being like, you need to do this.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: It was so it was less of a collaboration.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Less of a like, hey, we're equals or we're working together for the same goal. And it was more like she was the CEO.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:22:14] Speaker B: And I was like. And she was like, four skip levels.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: A boss.
Whereas, you know, with spirit guides, it's like you might have a manager or a skip level, but they're working with you on a project.
[00:22:27] Speaker A: Yeah. You're collaborating. They're giving you some guidance.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:22:30] Speaker A: Bouncing ideas off of them. You don't bounce ideas off of the goddess.
[00:22:34] Speaker B: I mean, you can. You can, you can. And sometimes she'll help you, but it's. It's more of a. Like, hey, I'm a very, very powerful being and sure, you can help me. Help me do this.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: And for a long time, I was so focused on working with her and on having sort of that directive from her that I used to say to people, like, I wouldn't commit murder unless my goddess told me to.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: Now I'm like, nah, yeah, yeah, that karma.
[00:23:08] Speaker B: I've grown up a bit.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah, that's good.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: But also, I think with that, there is potentially a danger of high control groups and cults, that sort of thing, where you definitely shouldn't be relying on other people to tell you, like, oh, this God said you need to do this.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: Yeah. No, you should have a direct relationship with your. Whatever being you're working with.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: And not everybody wants to have a direct relationship with their gods. And that's fine, that's fine. But just don't take deific, like, orders from another person, because they are just.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: A person and they're filtering it through their humanity, their humanness. And they can get it wrong.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: Exactly. And sometimes people will be deliberately trying to mislead you so that you give them all of your money or. Or whatever.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: Misleading themselves into it.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Absolutely. And it's not always malicious. If you're getting messages from a deity, you don't need to be like, oh, hey, Jillian, my goddess told me I need to do this, so I need you to do that too.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:24:14] Speaker B: Like it's not your job to connect somebody else to a deity.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: That's what we have to say about that.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: Watch out for your deity intermediaries.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: But, you know, the way that you can tell the difference between a deity and a spirit guide is just kind of, I think the level of intensity and.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: And the communication style.
[00:24:32] Speaker B: The communication style, for sure. Yeah.
[00:24:34] Speaker A: Again, that helping versus directing a deity.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Is not going to lead you to do bad things.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: None of them. Nothing positive should be if it's leading you to do bad things, whether it's a guide or God or a ghost or whatever.
Pass. Yes, don't do that. You don't need to deal with that repercussions.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: No. And also, this is just a general statement of health, which is if you are hearing or seeing spirit guides regularly, get checked out with your mental health or physical health, because that can be a sign of something.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: Okay, so I should get checked out is what you're telling me?
[00:25:15] Speaker B: I mean, yes.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: Well, I would. So I would also say one of the things I would caveat here is that if. If it is not telling you something positive when you communicate with your guides, I can speak to that specifically because that's what I have more experience with. It's always loving, kind, helpful. They're never going to be negative, mean, or getting you to do bad things. If you are, that's either part of yourself you're connecting to or maybe some other sorts of entities, which does bring up that question. The other one was, how do you tell the difference between God's goddesses, spirit guides and entities for you? Do you have an answer on the entities question?
[00:25:54] Speaker B: To me, they're all entities. Right. So to me, an entity is. Is anything that isn't present in this material realm. So it's something that lives in the spirit realm or exists in the spirit realm. Whether you can say they live or not, that's. That's a whole different philosophical discussion. But it. So they're all entities. And to me, what matters is, are they benevolent? Are they telling you good things? Are they helping you in positive ways? Does your life improve when you listen to them and work with them, or does it get worse? Right. And, you know, we talked with Jesse about how sometimes when you're on the right path, it's still really hard.
So it's a matter of listening to your intuition and listening to your gut and being like, okay, if I listen to this, I go this way and maybe it's not easy all the time. Right?
[00:26:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I've certainly had that happen to me. But if they're telling you to do something that feels wrong, don't do it. Don't do it.
[00:26:55] Speaker A: You should always honor yourself.
Never turn over your sovereignty to somebody else.
[00:27:01] Speaker B: Absolutely. Even if they're non corporeal.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, and I think even your guides would say that, like. And that's what I'm getting. It's like, even if your guides say, this is what you should do, and it is actually your guide saying this, and you're not feeling alignment with it, you do not have to do it. They are not your. They're not. They're. They're not your boss.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: No. And if a deity says, you need to do this, you don't need to. No. You know, you don't.
[00:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: It's up to you.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: You have free will. Yeah.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: What I would say is, you know, if you're getting some messages and you're a little like, I'm not sure if I believe this or if this feels right. If you're questioning it, you're like, I can't get anything from my intuition. I'm not feeling it. I'm just confused.
It's okay to ask somebody for help. Somebody who, like, get a tarot reading. You can get a tarot reading for me or from somebody else. Right. Or do on yourself or whatever other ways you have of bouncing ideas off of other people or yourself. Right. You could do your own tarot reading or flip a coin. Right. I mean, that's. That sounds a little bit, you know, Flippant.
[00:28:11] Speaker A: Flippant.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: But you'll be here all week.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: But what I found is sometimes if it's a yes or no, and I can't decide, I'm like, ah, what do I really feel?
Flipping a coin is such a good way to actually figure out what you feel.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Because sometimes you'll actually know. Maybe the. The coin will tell you no, and you'll have this reaction like, that's not what I want. That tells you.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: Exactly. So you don't do what the coin says. You do what it makes your gut say.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: Which leads us to another question. How do we communicate with our guides?
[00:28:45] Speaker B: What a good question. What a great question, Jillian.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: I just talk to them all the time. And there's a lot of different ways. Right. I tend to be very. I've got a lot of throat chakra energy. I am verbose. So for me, I talk to them, but I don't necessarily always talk to them verbally. I talk to them in my mind. And so I thought it would. Was a important to maybe go in a little bit of detail about what it feels. How do I know the difference between just my own thoughts.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: Versus when my guides. So for me, when my. It's like it's in a different part of my head when. When the thoughts are coming in, it's like. It's like I feel like they're more from up here than from, like, when I'm thinking in my head, the tone is a little different. And sometimes. What. It's like, I actually said this to a friend of mine. I was like, oh, you know how this happens? And she's like, no, I don't know how that happens. It's like I get a packet of information that I then unpack into words. Does that make sense to you?
[00:29:45] Speaker B: It does. It has never happened to me. But that's something that a lot of people call like a download.
[00:29:49] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's how it is. Very like. It's like I get the energy and then I just. So then that's why it will sound like my own words, but it's because I'm just taking that the energy of the information is there and I'm just putting it into words so that my conscious brain can digest it a bit better.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: It's a really interesting way of doing things. And you're not alone. Right. Because there are people who talk about receiving downloads. Right. For me, it's been a really difficult journey to connect with spirit guides on the regular. And I couldn't tell you why.
And part. Part of it might be that for a long time I was connecting with deity specifically.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like a different. I think it's like a radio station, I guess. Why don't do deities. I do spirit guides. It's like a different vibrational frequency you're tuning into. Right.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: And then, you know, the deity that I had been working with so closely kind of went off to do different stuff. And that felt like a betrayal for a long time.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: Right. Like, oh, my gosh, I've devoted so much of my life to this deity, and now she's off doing other things. And where does that leave me?
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Because deities are.
[00:30:55] Speaker B: They've got a lot of shit to do.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: Yeah. They're. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got their lives.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: And it's not that she won't be there if I, you know, call on her, but it's. There's a distance that didn't used to be there.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: And I feel like that kind of the information that came to me right now, too Is also. Was that it was also for you. You needed to not be working with, like, not. Not be working with her, but it was like it was time for a different stage of your life.
[00:31:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's. I think that's probably correct. You know, also just doing the things that I was clearly told to do didn't lead down paths that I thought were good, which, in retrospect, of course they were. You know, they were learning experiences, and they were useful in many different ways.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: But they weren't easy.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: They weren't easy. It was just like this really difficult time. And we've talked a little bit about how we both sort of lost our spirituality for a while and then came back to it right about the same time.
[00:31:47] Speaker A: So.
[00:31:48] Speaker B: So when I sort of lost my spirituality, that was when my deity had gone off to do other things and I wasn't communicating with spirit guides because I was feeling so betrayed by spirituality in general. And so then afterwards, it was like, well, I've been working with deity for so long, so what's the point of spirit guides almost? And I didn't think that on a conscious level, I. But I think I felt that way on a subconscious sort of sort of level where it's like, why talk to the middleman when you can talk to the boss? But if the boss is gone or busy?
[00:32:21] Speaker A: It's interesting because I've had the opposite experience. I have a. I have a real hard time dealing with God or the universe or source for me. And it's something I've been thinking about since that Kundalini exploded. The work Kundalini worm.
I've had this kind of realization, like, God, I'll use, you know, source. I. I don't want to trigger people with the word God. I'm okay with the word God, but I wasn't for a while. They're over there. God's over there doing their thing. Maybe someday we'll hang out while I'm like you. Do you. I'm doing me over here. And so for me, it's always. My relationship has always been with spirit guides because the idea of God or goddesses or whatever seemed too far and untouchable for me. So for me, it was a lot easier for me to deal with. Kind of like how Catholics deal with saints. Sure. Right. It's the same energy. It's like they're. I can. I can hang out. They're closer to me vibrationally. They're more human. Like they're closer to being incarnation. Right. Some of them are incarnating and are into human form and are your guides kind of in their in between lives. So I've been working on trying to connect to God a lot more this past week as well.
[00:33:32] Speaker B: And then Vishnu is like, hey, you got it.
[00:33:36] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:33:37] Speaker B: That's such an interesting, like, dichotomy that we have going on. It's true.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: I also got the messages you were talking to, by the way, that we. I think we should keep it in that we need to be doing an episode on losing your spirituality and coming back to it.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: I love that.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: I know that we talked about our journeys, but I mean it not so much in the terms of our journey that will come into it, but really is a bigger subject for everybody to talk about losing your spirituality and coming back to it and what the. Because I think a lot of people deal with that.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: I do, too.
[00:34:09] Speaker A: So we'll talk about that.
[00:34:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: But I also think I should probably tell, since we're talking about how to communicate with your guides.
[00:34:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: Share my story about how I first knew that I communicated with my guides.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: Yes, please do.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: We talk about it in the episode right before and we'll share it again. So I learned about spirit guides when I was a teenager. And so I would just talk to them all the time. Just talk to. I would call my guardian. My guardian is what I would refer to him as, because it's a him. And then. And then when I was about in my 20s, I was going to Peru and I was terrified because I was going to be in Peru for two months. I'd been working on learning Spanish and it wasn't going well.
It was not going well, but I already had my tickets, book. I had everything planned to go down there. And I was terrified. Terrified, like, so much. So in driving to the airport, my whole body was shaking because I was like, I'm going to this country on my own and I don't speak the language.
So that week prior to going down there, I was on the toilet.
I don't know. They tend to communicate with me more when I'm on the toilet. This is what we talked about in that episode, too. I don't know if I'm like, open. Oh, maybe it's the first chakra. Yeah. So it's like not tense.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's opening.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: So the message came into my head. You're actually. You're going to be okay. You're actually going to find that your Spanish is a lot better than you think. And you're going to be at the top. Top. Because I was going to be studying at the school down there that you're going to be in the top levels at that school. And I was like, that's not true. Like, I have no idea, like, why that thought came to my head because I did not believe it. They were going to test me when I got there and I knew I was going to be in the entry level class. Like, I just knew my Spanish was not good.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:04] Speaker A: So then when I went down to, to Peru and sure enough, they tested me, they put me in the highest level class. My Spanish, while not perfect, was actually pretty good to get me around. And people thought I spoke a lot more Spanish. The voice was right. So that for me was the first slum that I was like, wait a minute, that was not from me. It was true information.
And that's the first time I recognized that my guides were speaking to me.
It's been a real conversation.
[00:36:37] Speaker B: What's interesting is you were like, oh, I've been talking to them since I was a kid. I've been talking to deity since I was a kid.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Yeah, right.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: So I think that might be just the, the level where it's like I didn't know about other things, other levels. It was just kind of, well, there's gods. And even though I was born and baptized Catholic, I didn't, I wasn't raised Catholic, so I didn't really know about saints very much. So. Yeah, that's. That's really interesting. So for me, I don't just chit chat with my guides all day. It's more of a process. And part of that, I think is because for me, talking to deity was a process. It wasn't. He couldn't just be like, goddess, tell me what's up. Right. It was more like, I'm gonna do a meditation or a ritual and communicate in a very formal way. And so now for me, it's tricky to communicate with them because they don't always need something that's super formal.
But so I started doing channeling them and typing onto the computer like we've mentioned. And that's been really helpful for me because then I have a written document of things that I can go back to and be like, okay, they said this and this and this. But I've also been trying a new kind of tech heavy way, and it's a little ridiculous, but also a little spot on.
[00:38:00] Speaker A: I'm excited about this.
[00:38:01] Speaker B: So there's an app that you can get called Ghost Box. Okay.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Oh, I'm all about this. I like my apps.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: And specifically the Vox, which is Latin for voice.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: And it's basically a spirit box, which I don't know if you are familiar with what a spirit box is.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: No, not really. Yeah, I figured I could pretend that I am, but I won't.
[00:38:21] Speaker B: But a spirit box is something that's used in the ghost hunting world, and I've never used one before. I've never been on, like, a ghost hunt hunt.
But it's an electronic device that kind of cycles through either AM or FM or both radio waves and just kind of goes through. And then occasionally something will sort of pop up for a second and then go away. And so the idea is, if you ask entities to communicate to you through this box, through this electronic device, that they can tell you things. And so ghost hunters will get interesting stuff. And so I started using it and I was just like, what am I gonna hear?
[00:39:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: And I know that my house has no entities in it. It's a very safe place. There's no ghosts, there's no anything. Nothing's allowed in there that I don't specifically invite. So I know I'm not gonna get anything that's from something else. So I would turn on this app and I actually paid for it. Because you get longer sessions and you can record them.
[00:39:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: And it wasn't super expensive.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: Perfect.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: But you can get the free version. But basically you don't have to hit record. But I hit record, and I'd be like, I would like to speak with my entities. And then started asking questions. And sometimes I would get nothing.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: But interestingly, every time my guides would kind of come in, there was like a guitar chord that would play.
It's like, every time. And it's not a different guitar chord each time. It's like the same sound each time. Right. Like today, right before I came, I was like, I'm gonna do a little session and see what it has to say. So I clicked record and I said, is there anything I need to know before we record?
And I just heard, like, red. I'd like to invite my guides.
Anything I need to know before we start recording today.
Are you here?
I was like, okay, I'll wear red.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: Red.
[00:40:33] Speaker B: I had been planning on wearing black.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: Well, I wore black. That must be why. Because I got the message to wear black.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: Right. So we weren't wearing the same color. We weren't matchy matchy.
[00:40:45] Speaker A: That's right. Normally I wear red.
[00:40:47] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. That's really funny. But then, like, I kid you not, I hear record. Podcast.
Podcasting. Creepy.
Right?
Right.
I Know, and then I was like, anything else? And I heard red again. So then I turned it off and. But it was just like, are you kidding me?
[00:41:16] Speaker A: That's amazing.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: Are you kidding me? And sometimes, mostly it's not that helpful, honestly. It was just more of an experiment I was doing for this show, honestly.
[00:41:24] Speaker A: Well, that's fun.
[00:41:25] Speaker B: But like I asked it, there was a crystal sale and I was like, is there any, you know, is there anything specifically that I need to buy that will help me to make money? This was not helpful. And I hear if you like it.
[00:41:39] Speaker A: But that is good, right? Because if you like it, then that's your. That's your energy telling you, yes, this is the thing.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: But also, if I bought everything that I liked, my husband would divorce me because I would bankrupt our family.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: This is true.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: This is true. I could spend thousands on crystals without even trying.
[00:41:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: So yeah, that was just kind of a fun experiment to see, you know, could I communicate with them in a different way? And yes, but that one's specifically tricky because I knew that there were no other entities. I wouldn't want to do that in this building and try to connect to my spirit guides.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: Well, I was going to say it might be interesting to do that in this building to try to connect to ghosts.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:42:20] Speaker A: This place is definitely haunted.
[00:42:22] Speaker B: Definitely not this space.
[00:42:23] Speaker A: We've cleared this space out. But.
[00:42:24] Speaker B: And I do want to try it in the space. That was. That was one of the reasons I was like, I'm buying this cuz I definitely want to try it in the building. If we get anything interesting, maybe we'll add it.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Or it could be. We could do it as its own little episode. A little ghost episode. Oh yeah. Because our fa. Our most popular episodes. Three most popular episodes. Spear guides, ghosts, crystals.
That's what everybody wants a little bit more of.
[00:42:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:52] Speaker A: So here we go. We'll line them up.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:42:55] Speaker A: I love that. Yeah. So we'll link to it in the show notes and I'm going to try it as well to see what I get.
[00:43:02] Speaker B: It's. It's fun.
[00:43:03] Speaker A: I do want to say something else though, going back to. I'm going to jump around a little bit. I want to. One other thing I want to add in as far as the mental. The telepathic communication with guides. Right. Because that's my primary way of communicating with guides. I will often also, particularly if I'm trying to talk to other people's guides.
It's like I send my energy up to communicate to them, to ask them questions. And I will tell you it's very, again, very different because I will. You have a very. You've had this history of a very ritual experience where I'm like, my computer isn't working. Guys, can you help this work? You know, like, I will literally ask them for help in very mundane things. And it works, it does, it does work for parking spots or whatever. They're there to help. But then I also am very. I also always show them gratitude. Anytime it happens, I say thanks. They've actually even in recording sometimes, like, I know I was watching back some edit some footage I was editing and. And I had forgotten to turn on one of the cameras and I turned it on and I was like, in the video, I'm like, oh, thank you for letting me know.
Like, it was like, they were like, camera's not on. I was like, oh, good. Thank you for letting you know. Yeah. Because I could tell the way that it came through was different than just like, oh, I better remember this. It was more like, hey, don't forget to hit record.
My guys are very hands on.
[00:44:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: So that's one way to communicate with them is mentally. But. But there are other ways.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Like you could do guided meditations. There are so many guided meditations available on YouTube. Or like, I use the Insight timer. It's called Insight Timer.
[00:44:53] Speaker A: Insight Timer.
I don't use any of the guided medications.
[00:44:57] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:44:57] Speaker A: Yeah, sometimes it happens. I'm like, I can't remember. Could you please let me know?
[00:45:03] Speaker B: So, yeah, like, connecting using a guided meditation can be really helpful.
[00:45:07] Speaker A: And I will say so I will do that too. But not as a guided meditation. Like, not something that I'm listening to. But I will do a meditation that is a visual oriented meditation where I'll calm myself down and I'll go into some sort of a space and I will sit and communicate with my guides. That's how I connected with Vishnu. That's how I often connect with my main guide as well and have a little conversation.
[00:45:29] Speaker B: And I do that as well. But I learned it. I learned how to do a particular meditation through a guided meditation.
[00:45:34] Speaker A: That makes sense.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: And so it's just kind of a matter of, you know, if something feels natural to you, do it. If something feels not natural to you, if you're like, oh, sounds terrible, don't do it.
[00:45:45] Speaker A: And I think that it's a good place to start. Right. It's a good place to see guided meditations. But as we have learned, not everybody is visually oriented. Yes. Not everybody can imagine. Visually imagine things that's why it's so great. There are all these different mediums. Yes. Right. There is, like, the telepathy medium. There is looking for signs or, like, communicating through feeling. There is the writing. And maybe we should talk a little bit more about that so that people who want to try the automatic writing, if they. Because that is also a great way and who have. I learned a lot about doing that from Lee Harris, but he. He does have some videos about how to connect because he's a channeler. So he talks about just, you know, lighting a candle, getting some crystals that. That make you feel safer or good, and just getting out a keyboard. And for me, it isn't automatic writing in the sense that, like, my fingers move of their own free will. Maybe some people do that. But for me, it's that the information, the words come into my head and I just type what I hear. Yeah. And it is interesting because I'll go back and read it. Like, it was like, I think I've said in a previous episode, I got a message that was like, your life is going to look completely different in a year. They always sign off. The same is often when you first start off, it often is just like, you're loved, we love you, you're so wonderful, blah, blah, blah, blah. And people can be like, yeah, this is. This isn't great. I'm like, well, how often do you talk to yourself that way? Right?
[00:47:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:13] Speaker A: So you can give that a shot.
[00:47:15] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And you can also just ask. You can invite your guides. You can just be like, hey, spirit guides who are kind of benevolent and want to talk to me, come give me a sign or help me.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: Give me a sign.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: You know, and they can give you signs in any number of ways.
You know, last time when we were talking to Jesse, he talked about angel numbers. That's a way that a guide can communicate with you. Like, the song that comes on the radio next could be a sign. Right. So it's like paying attention. Attention to your surroundings.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: And. And hearing things. And especially noticing synchronicities.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: Or things that are off. Right. Can be a way to. To be like, oh, my guides have or. Or sent me a message.
[00:48:01] Speaker A: Or even stronger. Like, there's, like. I remember walking through the UW campus and seeing the Department of Psychology sign, and it, like, had.
It felt intense to me. And for me, it was like, oh, I. It was a sign for me that, like, you're supposed to study psychology.
[00:48:20] Speaker B: And it was a sign.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: It was a literal sign.
And I did. It felt like it felt to me like a important information.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And also, if there's a particular animal that connect with.
We don't say spirit animal.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: We don't. Because we are white.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: Because we are white.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: But if that is your tradition, you know, you can say that. Yes.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: But if you are not. If. If a spirit animal is not an explicit part of your tradition as an indigenous American, please don't use that terminology. You can say animal guide. Yeah, my spirit guide, who is an animal. So if you have an animal guide, you know, pay attention to when you see that animal. Right. So if your animal guide is a house cat, you know, your house cat's going to just be a cat. So it might not be the best way. But, you know, if your cat is insistent upon something, maybe something to pay attention to. But if it's an eagle, for instance, like a bald eagle, then pay attention. When bald eagles show up, they're rare enough that it's more of a portent or more of a. An augury. Yeah, as you.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: As I will.
[00:49:28] Speaker B: As you will.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Actually, you know, as I mentioned, I went down to Peru and I was studying spirituality, studying Incan spirituality and Incan spiritual traditions and how they exist today. And in that tradition, animal signs are often messages from the gods as well. And so they mean particular things. So if you see a hummingbird, that means something. Specifically, you saw an eagle. If you saw a serpent, they mean different things. So that's also perhaps a way that you can kind of like, I one time saw a whole bunch of red robins. I'm like, why am I seeing all these red robins? It's, like, seems a little weird. I'm used to seeing one or two, so that could be a way as well. If it feels like it's important, it might be worth looking into what that means for sure. So there's all of that. There's all those different ways that you can have a direct connection with your guides. If you still have problems or want a little boost. You can also work with people that do connect with guides. I mean, again, we'll throw in when you have another person that's an intermediary, you have to kind of realize that they're filtering that information.
[00:50:27] Speaker B: Right.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: I will say that I will sometimes connect with people's guides when I'm doing energy healings. So if you want to work with me, you can go to jillianharrington.com and I, as part of my energy healing, I connect up to the guide and see what kind of information they have. So I'm not so much specifically, like, I'm going to come and just communicate with your guides. But that can be something that if you're wanting to see, have some sort of connection and maybe see who might be working with you or what other. Like, I had one person I was doing an energy healing with, and I described the being or the person that I was seeing, and she was like, oh, that's my grandmother. So sometimes your guides can be people that have passed on that are working with you. So, and I was like, okay, well, this is the message that she has for you or this is what she's working with you on right now. Yeah. So that can be a way too, is working with other people.
[00:51:18] Speaker B: And something else I want to point out too is that, you know, we say spirit guides, but you might think, oh, it's my guardian angel, right?
[00:51:26] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely. Like, I, like, I called my guy guardian for a long time.
[00:51:31] Speaker B: So if there's a different term that feels better to you use it.
[00:51:36] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: Right.
[00:51:37] Speaker A: Y. So hopefully that answered our reader's question.
[00:51:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:41] Speaker A: I do want to say one other thing. I'm going to go back to the computer, back to computer time, because I'm going to read a message from my guides. But the other thing I will say at the very end of her message, she said, I'm looking for connection that can help me on my journey of becoming who I truly am. So we've talked a lot about gods and goddesses and guides, but don't forget your own soul. Yeah, right. Connecting to your soul. If it's really about you wanting to become the most of who you are, your soul is a guide to you as well. One of the metaphors I heard recently that I thought this apparently common metaphors. You may have heard this before, but the idea is that you as the personality are in the forest and the soul is like on the cliff up above and can see the whole forest. And so can help give you guidance and information to know, like, oh, don't go that way. It's just brambles. If you keep going this way, you're eventually going to hit a trail. Right. So by connecting to your soul, and you can connect to your soul very similarly to the ways that we've talked about here. Through meditations, you can also do writing where your intention, you're setting the intention to connect with your soul versus your guides.
[00:52:55] Speaker B: Would you define the soul in a similar way or the same way as like a higher self?
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:52:59] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:00] Speaker B: So you might have heard the term higher self as well.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: Because that's Exactly. That's how I would describe my higher self. So, yeah, soul, higher self.
[00:53:09] Speaker A: It's the part of you that, like, is eternal, that knows everything, knows what's. What you're working on, all of that. Whereas right now, in this, you've got this personality or into a particular personality, and this personality is only with you for this life. Right.
[00:53:25] Speaker B: But your soul is there throughout your journey, whether you believe in just this life or. Or many lives or whatever your beliefs are, whatever thing is, you do have this essence that is bigger than just your body.
[00:53:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And it does feel. I did have. I did have a lovely Reiki attunement with Samar. Shout out to my delightful Samar out there. And I remember sitting and feeling like, huge. And that was the time, like, oh, I think my soul was coming out to play because it felt like huge.
[00:53:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:00] Speaker A: And we just cram ourselves into these little bodies for who we really are.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay.
[00:54:05] Speaker A: I keep on playing with my glasses on the laptop. Let's get to this.
[00:54:09] Speaker B: I'm excited.
[00:54:10] Speaker A: Yes. This is a. Like me. My. My guides are not terse. They have a lot to say, as always. So I did a message. I did a message to connect to my guides to see what they had to say. So this is what they had to say to you all and to our dear, lovely audience member who wrote in. We are here, we are one. We are beings of greatness that help you in your journey through life. We know that it is a hard journey you undertake, but that you do it not only for the betterment of your own soul, but for the world that you inhabit. For each one of you, as you learn and grow, you lift the collective consciousness. Right now on your planet, there is a lot of fear and worry. A feeling that there is a darkness that is strangling you. Please know that there is light all around you. You are surrounded by light. It comes from within you and without you. From the air and the birds and the trees and the wind, you are surrounded by light. The heavier energies that are created by other human beings may seem overwhelming, but it will pass like smoke in a breeze. With time, we understand this may be hard for you to understand or accept as you are in the middle of a pain cycle, but do know that it will pass. And by working with your guides, you can navigate a way through it to minimize any danger or pain, but it will require trust and a willingness to be guided. So begin to communicate with your guides however you see fit, however it resonates with you or feels good, you may have Received a lot of ideas here, here, but there are more you can be. It's funny because this is before.
This is before we only had our notes. This is okay. You can be communicated with through songs that may play on the radio or note you receive from a friend or a video that pops up in your feed. Messages are coming at you from every medium that you can imagine, even billboards. If you attune yourself to look for the guidance, it will be given to you to speak directly to the woman with the Black Panther guide. Do know that there are ancient energies at work here on earth that provide guidance to the earthly form. And Black Panther is one of these. A very strong spirit guide that guides those who walk a more magical path. This is a very protective spirit that guides you along your journey. And yes, she is elusive at times, but she is also very fierce in her protection of those she works with. She may only work with you for a moment in time, but it is a calling to you to tap into your own wisdom, power and knowledge for you to step into your role as a powerful being to bring more light into this dark world. We are here with you always and give love and guidance wherever and whenever it is asked of us. We are here to support you. And we wish that you would always know that you are not alone, but have the guidance and protection of many who have walked the path before you with love and peace.
[00:57:03] Speaker B: The guides thank you.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: Beautiful.
[00:57:08] Speaker B: Beautiful.
And, you know, send us a message and you might get.
[00:57:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:15] Speaker B: A direct message from Chilean skies.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Yeah. If you want me to channel a message for you, I'm happy to do it. That'll be kind of interesting. I did encounter Black Panther on that trip in Peru, so I did the ayahuasca. I did an ayahuasca ceremony a few times, and the first time I did it was very potent and intense. And at the end of it, Black Panther with their jaguar was there, like at my feet and stage, slept with me beside my bed through the night. So not a. Not an being that I worked with over time, but was there for me in that experience, or at least that I know that I've worked with over time.
[00:57:53] Speaker B: That's beautiful.
[00:57:54] Speaker A: But I didn't really know much of. Of her. Other than that, like. Right. Other than that she's like a badass. Right. And really cool. But I never looked into it. So I channeled this message and then of course, I had to do a little bit of research to find out about Black Panther and so note how they kept on talking about how she's a very protective guide. That's not anything that I knew or. Yeah, but when you do research, that is absolutely who she is. She's a very. That. That kept on coming up over and over again in my research that she's a protective guide. So I was like, well, okay. That was a little validation for me that, you know, even though I know and I believe that I'm getting messages from my guides, it's always nice to get a little bit of validation.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: It really is.
[00:58:33] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:58:34] Speaker B: All right.
[00:58:35] Speaker A: Well, all right. Intention time.
[00:58:36] Speaker B: Intention time.
[00:58:37] Speaker A: So for those of you who don't know, we like to set a little intention at the end of the episode.
[00:58:41] Speaker B: And we also like to. To talk about our previous intention.
[00:58:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we do the game about can Jillian remember her previous intention? And the answer is always no.
[00:58:52] Speaker B: So, Jillian, what was your intention last week, last time?
[00:58:56] Speaker A: Do you remember it?
[00:58:57] Speaker B: I don't remember yours.
I think it was like you were going to keep doing something and they have, well, whatever. You got a kundalini worm. So I got a kundalini worm.
[00:59:11] Speaker A: Burned out everything.
I'm sure whatever I intended was wonderful and magical and happened. I just am still stuck on that blood thing from the previous one that's blocked out anything else.
What was your intention?
[00:59:26] Speaker B: My intention was to be more creative because we talked about how creativity is being rebellious in a time when people want to control you.
I have been over a long time, been working on a workbook, and I finished it and I got it. I had a couple friends edit it, and now it's on my website and it's a pay what you can, five to $25. And I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but it's called the. The Magical Manifestation Workbook for people who can't stay positive all the fucking time.
[01:00:05] Speaker A: Yes. So go check that
[email protected] if you want to get started. Snag yourself a copy.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: Yeah, anywhere from 5 to 25. Pay what you can.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: Perfect. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. I remembered what it was now because it was tied to the episode as well. And it was about community, so. Community. I said I wanted to build community. I was going to continue to pour energy into community. So I started a spiritual preneurs group in Portland on meetup.com and we did have our first session. There was just three of us. But you know what? I always feel like whoever's the right person in the room is the right person in the room. So there's somebody that is in the Shamanic path. That was really cool. And there was this other guy who was delightful, who was just. He's. He's just a writer. I don't want to say jest. I mean, that he wasn't a business owner.
[01:00:56] Speaker B: Right.
[01:00:56] Speaker A: But he is a writer and very much in line with philosophy. And we just have this lovely little. Little. It was just lovely being with these other people that were like kind of high vibration. Yeah. So we do have another session set up in a couple of weeks and we'll continue to kind of build. And I'm fascinated, curious, because there's some people that are more like mediums that are coming. And I'm just really excited to have this group of people that are operating at kind of a higher level. When you're with people that are at higher vibration, it just has a different energy when you're around at that group.
[01:01:25] Speaker B: It does. And it's so fun to just be able to talk spirituality with people in a, like, really casual sort of.
[01:01:31] Speaker A: And that's caveat it. Yeah.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: And I was unfortunately unable to attend the first session because I was sick.
[01:01:38] Speaker A: Yeah. But you'll be there for the next one.
[01:01:40] Speaker B: That's the goal.
[01:01:41] Speaker A: That's the goal. Yeah. All right, so let's set some intentions for next time. All right.
[01:01:45] Speaker B: Well, my intention is that I'm going to be healthy.
[01:01:47] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:01:48] Speaker B: So I'm going to focus on. Yeah. Focus on boosting my immune system and taking care of my body and. And just really not succumbing to every sickness that comes my way.
[01:02:01] Speaker A: I wonder what that's about. I don't know. I think maybe you're purging some old energies or something.
[01:02:07] Speaker B: Maybe. Or I might just have a kindergartner.
[01:02:10] Speaker A: Well, that too. But, you know, everything happens on multiple.
[01:02:13] Speaker B: I know, I know.
[01:02:15] Speaker A: I mean, this is a spiritual podcast. Oh, okay.
[01:02:17] Speaker B: It's. It's totally mundane.
[01:02:19] Speaker A: That's boring.
[01:02:20] Speaker B: It's because I'm purging something. Okay, great. Oh, no, that's the Aries trying to tell me. Yes. My story.
[01:02:27] Speaker A: Yes, you're welcome. So my intention. So I'm going to continue to work on this idea where I've been really working on connecting up to the divine universal energy and being in alignment with that and kind of surfing the energies. Meaning. Sorry, that sounded really woo. But really meaning that I want to be guided as far as whatever I do to really not be guided by my mind and what I think I should be doing, but by really tuning into my soul and to my divine guidance to see what the path forward is.
[01:03:02] Speaker B: I love that.
[01:03:03] Speaker A: I'm going to keep on working on that.
[01:03:04] Speaker B: Okay?
[01:03:05] Speaker A: That's my thing.
[01:03:06] Speaker B: All right. Well, on that note.
[01:03:07] Speaker A: On that note, do your woo.
[01:03:10] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:03:10] Speaker A: Do your woo.
[01:03:11] Speaker B: And tell us, what does your soul say?
[01:03:14] Speaker A: Yes. What does your soul say? Bye.
